Comments on: Improved forage management for dryland livestock value chains https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/ Fri, 15 May 2015 07:00:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.9 By: Lance https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-990 Fri, 15 May 2015 07:00:45 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-990 In reply to a.duncan@cgiar.org.

Grazing pressure is a serious constraint but I’d hesitate to call it THE root problem. There is some evidence (not systematic enough yet — more work needed here) that in some cases that problem is not gross grazing pressure so much as the timing of grazing. Under certain circumstances, pastures can even get too much rest. We have a small project going on now that may add a little to the evidence base on this, but there certainly could be a lot of mileage on such topics.

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By: Johanna https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-987 Fri, 15 May 2015 06:15:36 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-987 I accidently pressed the thumb down button on this, and I don’t seem to be able to undo that… It says voting was closed, so I hope it will not be taken into account 🙂

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By: Polly Ericksen https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-978 Thu, 14 May 2015 19:24:22 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-978 thanks to all! I look forward to taking this idea forward!!!

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By: Barry Shapiro https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-923 Thu, 14 May 2015 10:15:41 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-923 This good idea should be a sub-set of “Forage into Use”

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By: Epi https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-883 Thu, 14 May 2015 08:53:48 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-883 Thanks Polly. Indeed this is an important topic that we need to contribute to. I agree with Abdou on the constraint of marketing fodder/forages, especially targeting extensive pastoral systems. I think that in these systems, especially in dry areas, rangeland management and developing capacity on techniques for rangeland management including rehabilitation techniques (use of leguminous plants to improve soil fertility) for highly degraded land, looking at innovative approaches to address bush encroachment have to be part and parcel of addressing the problem pasture availability for grazing in extensive systems . More needs to be done on the ground to develop this capacity.

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By: Abdou FALL https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-867 Thu, 14 May 2015 08:28:15 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-867 Andrew: Some experiences from West Africa may be useful here. 1. For feed markets the flow of feeds is from rural to urban areas where feed price are high. 2. Bulkiness and high transport costs are key constraints to fodder/forage markets targeting extensive pastoral systems. 3.The model ‘Pastoral Units’, demarcated community grazing lands managed by pastoralist was piloted but with mixed results. 3. Management of grazing resources should be linked to investment in and management of water resources. 5. We should also pay attention to the on-going experience of the ‘Great Green Wall’ in The Sahel.

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By: a.duncan@cgiar.org https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-836 Thu, 14 May 2015 07:24:27 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-836 In reply to Jean.

Jean – I agree with much of what you say. Reseeding of pastures is a gut-reaction based intervention and history shows that it doesn’t really work. The root problem around productivity of rangelands is heavy grazing pressure – there is usually a reasonable seed bank so applying more seed would not really help unless livestock were excluded. Planted forages are also unlikely to be the solution in dry areas. Mobility has evolved for good reasons that relate to the unpredictability of spatial and temporal rainfall patterns in pastoral areas. Trying to get forages to grow under these conditions is challenging unless irrigation is introduced. The answer then must lie in communal agreements about excluding livestock and then sharing the biomass that results – challenging but not impossible – this relates to Lance’s presentation on governance in pastoral systems. Lots of mileage there I suspect.

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By: JasonSircely https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-742 Wed, 13 May 2015 14:00:24 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-742 I suspect one of the key questions is how within-community differences in individual preferences and hopes for the future can be reconciled—specifically, how can community and market institutions be supported to be inclusive of those who are more open to market-oriented production systems, and those who are simply not interested in more than the minimal change from traditional systems forced by external conditions (for whom marketing is largely a coping mechanism under duress). In other words, how can market and community institutions flexibly provide support, regardless of individual preferences? I imagine that cost-effective options for both land management and forage provision can help provide impetus for forward-looking community management. They may even help provide hope.

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By: JasonSircely https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-730 Wed, 13 May 2015 13:45:10 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-730 In reply to Jean.

Thanks for that, Jean. I couldn’t agree more. We have pastoralists in Borana pointing us to Leptothrium senegalense as a high-quality grass that can recover degraded areas (in spite of the ecological/evolutionary contradiction this seems to imply). It seems in moderate such rainfall drylands in Ethiopia, this could be a good species to start with. Do you have much of a sense off-hand of the constraints on re-seeding (production, germination, germplasm)? Perhaps in newly enclosed, highly degraded areas subjected to fire?

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By: JasonSircely https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/improved-forage-management-for-dryland-livestock-value-chains/#comment-720 Wed, 13 May 2015 13:35:23 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=607#comment-720 In reply to Smith.

Absolutely. I think there are opportunities to borrow a variety of approaches from West Africa, where people have been dealing with similar constraints for centuries, e.g. Faidherbia albida agroforestry and simple, low-cost forage preservation.

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