Comments on: What farmers really really need https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/ Tue, 19 May 2015 11:10:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.9 By: Annet Mulema https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-1003 Tue, 19 May 2015 11:10:47 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-1003 In reply to Ewen Le Borgne.

Thanks Ewen, you raise important questions which need to be delved into. Researchers need to influence the donor community with concrete evidence. Bringing donors closer to the communities can aid this as it provides a platform where donors directly interact with the beneficiaries and listen to their stories, their actual needs and wants. I was a bit hesitate to change the title but I will think through it again. Thanks.

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By: Annet Mulema https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-1002 Tue, 19 May 2015 10:59:19 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-1002 In reply to Dirk Hoekstra.

I agree. Our research needs to consider the needs of actors who directly or indirectly interact with the producers especially the consumers. The approach needs to enhance producers’ capacity to meet the demands of the consumers. In most cases, its private sector – traders- who are knowledgeable about this thence and can pass on this information to farmers and researchers.

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By: Ewen Le Borgne https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-998 Fri, 15 May 2015 11:12:38 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-998 (Late comment from Addis)
This research needs to incorporate not only identifying what needs to be done but also exante evaluation on farmer’s needs and wants.
The appreciative approach of existing knowledge and building up on what is needed is what makes this approach different.
We also need to bring in somehow the external knowledge – the focus being on internal knowledge doesn’t help to move things forward.
Need is about priority setting – with limited resources – you need to be really focused. Quantification of what the likely impact would be, some sort of modeling exercise would be helpful.
On the other hand, the issue of donor’s requirement vs a vs farmer’s interest needs to be considered.
There is very low adaptation to innovations, but the question is why? Are we not propagating demand driven research?
Why don’t we respond to already assessed need instead of doing another research on farmer’s need?
We recognize no matter what we have done, we haven’t found the solution, hence working on this is potentially good. Trying to do an analysis of why we are not successful in bringing technologies that they adapt is something that needs to be looked into. A lot of methodology is both quantitative and qualitative is out there, but why is it not working? Maybe we really need to look at not only the need but also the want aspect as well
Suggestion was made to change the title in to “What farmers really really can do”

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By: Stuart Worsley https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-994 Fri, 15 May 2015 11:05:51 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-994 In reply to Dirk Hoekstra.

Indeed Dirk. And that adds grist to the mill. Participatory research need not be limited to
farmers alone. There are wider groups that are affected by our work, or who have a stake in the agendas we pursue. The scope for building this methodology is immense. If we can but agree that we need to start this journey, then we can determine how. I like Annet’s idea here because it tables the idea of a “different approach to science”.

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By: Dirk Hoekstra https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-992 Fri, 15 May 2015 09:02:50 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-992 Interesting discussion, but as stressed in the conversations we had yesterday, it is not only researchers and farmers who should develop research proposals, but it should also involve other platform members, especially the ones representing the consumers. As we urbanize, more farmers will produce for the markets and those demands will have to be taken into account. .In the end, is it the farmers who decide what we should eat or is it the consumer???? Of course in a subsistence oriented production system producers = consumers.

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By: Annet Mulema https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-988 Fri, 15 May 2015 06:25:31 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-988 In reply to Stuart Worsley.

Stuart, you spell out the agenda clearly. Thanks. We need to ask ourselves the question…”What would our research look like if we engaged the beneficiaries right from the start? Right from the process of initiating ideas to inform our research? You raise good points.

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By: Annet Mulema https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-986 Fri, 15 May 2015 06:13:54 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-986 In reply to Polly Ericksen.

Hi Polly, I do understand your concern of keeping reports in the shelf. We need to be accountable. Information from participatory analyses needs to be shared widely and influence people in charge of carrying research in specific areas. It is important that we avoid raising expectations as we facilitate the discussions. We also need to be open and set realistic goals. What I have learned working with farmers is that once you are clear about what the two parties want and set realistic goals, it works out well. Whatever can not be achieved needs to be disclosed.

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By: Stuart Worsley https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-946 Thu, 14 May 2015 12:47:46 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-946 Agree Annett. I would add in response to Polly’s comment that this could be a proposal to research how livestock development change happens in a more profound way. Right now, we work on the basis that experts know what is best, and therefore act on behalf of the poor. We consult with them, and allow them to advise us, but still it is us who determine the research agenda, and what happens with the results of that.

Instead, what if we were to explore participatory science where we do not consult with farmers, but engage with them throughout the research process. This would mean that the research question would alter on the basis of what the discovery has been, and would be shaped together with farmers.

This would reveal two things.

1) Research that navigates towards what system wide intelligence is telling us. Participation would here enable the off-pathway consequences to come into view, and to influence how the research evolves. This allows for complex interactions and the unexpected to help surface solutions that we would not otherwise have seen from the expert stand point. The consequences of this is research that is more rapidly “fit for purpose”

2) The evolution of new scientific method that deals with complex interaction by fostering and engaging with emergence, as opposed to making a-priori assumptive hypothesis than needs to be locked for the purposes of replication. My sense is that our approaches to date emphasize the need for replication as proof of concept, which in turn implies that systems are not complex and unpredictable. It treats our world as being complicated (not complex) and therefore reducible to ultimate predictability. I am no longer convinced that we can continue like this if we expect to deliver research findings that are useful generically. Such participatory research could be invaluable in exploring tools and methods that enable such research to happen with the right level of robust testing. This therefore is a research agenda in its own right.

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By: Polly Ericksen https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-932 Thu, 14 May 2015 11:44:58 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-932 Hmm.. I need to be convinced that this will move beyond just more Participatory analyses that turn into nice reports that sit on a shelf… where is the Action Research component that should be generated from asking farmers all of these questions? and what do we do when they identify issues for which we have no solution? How do you avoid raising expectations? Think that side needs a bit more thought.

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By: Millicent Liani https://virtual.ilri.org/portfolio/what-farmers-really-really-need/#comment-910 Thu, 14 May 2015 09:49:12 +0000 https://virtual.ilri.org/?post_type=jetpack-portfolio&p=827#comment-910 Great Annet, the bottom-top approach to research and development (appreciative inquiry approach) in relations to “whose voices, and whose realities count” as Robert Chambers states, is the only way the societies/communities we work with can realize and feel our impact. What an idea!

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